I used to go to it and gets parts of names to put together."[17]. But a page of script would have panel one, panel two, panel three. Q: So did you write the first issue of The Rawhide Kid? Larry Lee - Brother. Q: I think you mentioned that you started working at Marvel in about 1958? A tweet showing Stan Lee with his brother Larry Lieber and comic book artist Ken Bald is actually using a five-year-old photo from a 2013 Wizard World NYC report. Within a few years I gathered quite a few of the early Marvels I had missed including a bunch . I think I wanted a little more freedom. Son of Jack Aron Lieber and Celia Lieber LARRY LIEBER: Oh, no. Martin unfortunately put Jeff in charge of all the color comics and put me in charge of the black-and-white books. Sep 08, 2015 at 12:12 pm. Q: And is it fair to say you don't know when those legends first started appearing? LARRY LIEBER: Yes. I was very young and I had a couple of jobs. You could have said it this way, or this way or that way," and Im realizing, yeah, I don't think of it that way or this way. Q: And when you say you were writing the stories, what exactly were you writing? I lived with him for a while and it didn't work out so well. [26] Lee then offered him the editorship of Marvel UK, the New York City-based imprint that produced black-and-white reprint comics for the UK market, as well as new stories of the superhero Captain Britain. Stanley Martin (Stan) Lee formerly Lieber. I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. . MR. TOBEROFF: That's okay. From 1974 to 1975, he was editor of Atlas/Seaboard Comics. Disney has counter-sued to protect their interests. I used to get names out of the back of the dictionary, from the biographical section where you have foreign names, Russian, this and that. Stan Lee Children. How, how did you come to write the first script for Iron Man? My only experience was in the color comics. LARRY LIEBER: I believe so. Q: And how did you come up with his name? Disney's Marvel unit is suing to hold on to full control of Avengers characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, Dr. And since nobody knows the name of it, I'll make it a short name. Marvel legend Stan Lee rightfully gets credit when discussing the most important creators at Marvel, alongside Steve Ditko, Joe Simon Jack Kirby, and others. a little space for myself or something, and I wanted to do a little drawing again. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. [27][28] Lieber said Lee gave a rare compliment on the Hulk strip, telling his brother, "[I]t's very good. Q: None whatsoever? That started out with my brother writing it and me drawing it, penciling it, and it didn't do well and he finally said I could write it, and I wrote that for a while. Some of these stories were even co-written with his brother Stanley Lieber aka Stan Lee. Q: And is that where you did your freelance work? "[13] In 1958, following an economic downturn for the publisher and the firing of virtually all the comics staffers save Lee, "Stan said he wanted somebody to help him write, and he had nobody then; he was doing it all himself. He is affiliated with Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital. Aftre a while, I'd just go to the typewriter. Q: What how did you come to work on Rawhide Kid? And again, I made up the civilian name. And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. LARRY LIEBER: Well, when the when the I give a [11] Because it was not standard industry practice during this time to give writer and artist credits, Lieber may have supplied more. I I wrote a few books, the first issue or the first couple issues, yes. LARRY LIEBER: Okay. Lieber Married Celia Solomon May 5th, 1920; Manhattan, NY NY Marriage Cert # 013005 Residence records include: ===== 510 Brinley Ave, Apt 10 Beadley Beach, NJ (1955) Father of: ===== Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee . Q: So not in the period 1958 to 1965? Q: And did you pay for your own supplies, whatever they were? And it's also sequential, so the artist has to have a sense of sequence and story. Joan Lieber. For roughly a year and a half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. - Larry Lieber Speaks", "Jim Mooney Over Marvel: From Terrytoons to Omega the Unknown, Jim talks Comics", "Larry Lieber Retires from The Amazing Spider-Man", "Archie Goodwin, Larry Lieber to Receive Bill Finger Award", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Larry_Lieber&oldid=1139371947, This page was last edited on 14 February 2023, at 20:06. I can make certain changes, if I wish, and all that, but it's a full script, which I welcome. From 1974 to 1975, he was editor of Atlas/Seaboard Comics. MS. SINGER: That's okay. LARRY LIEBER: They I was in the office, the Marvel office. His wife Joan, to whom he'd been married since 1949 . LARRY LIEBER: That I did freelance work for them? Q: The "he" when you said "he"? Strange, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon, Thor and others. Q: Who would make the decision about who was going to write the scripts for a book? And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. He said, "Write this," and, you know, sometimes I would write, and if it was weekend, I wouldn't wait until Monday to bring it into the office to give it to Stan, but I remember going over to the West Side, the main post office at night and mailing it. And I also came up with his hammer. As Lieber recalled it to comics historian Daniel Best, "My mother died when I was 16. He scripted and occasionally also drew the odd Western or Sgt. I made up stories that I really liked and it lasted a little while. '58. Afterwards, I had been so used to it that I wouldn't have noticed if it was still there or not. Did you ever have any interactions with Jack Kirby when he was drawing scripts that you had done? He was very easy, he was showing me. I don't remember the year, but I obtained them when they were discarded. I used to get names out of the back of the dictionary, from the biographical section where you have foreign names, Russian, this and that. No, I I, no, it it came when Jack moved on to doing super-heroes. MR. TOBEROFF: Go ahead. MR. TOBEROFF: Objection. He is a writer, known for Iron Man (2008), Avengers: Endgame (2019) and Ant-Man (2015). LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Q: What did you do after you finished writing the script for the first Ant-Man? Edward L. K LARRY LIEBER: I believe so, yes. LARRY LIEBER: Okay, I didn't know the term. [5] At "about ten-and-a-half", with his brother in the U.S. Army, Lieber and his parents returned to Manhattan, moving to the Washington Heights neighborhood. As Lieber recalled of those creature features, Stan made up the plot, and then he'd give it to me, and I'd write the script. [2][29][31] Lieber also penciled the Sunday page again from 1990 through at least 1995. Robert Solomon, Stan and Larry's uncle, was the business manager at Timely. Stan Lee was an American comic-book writer, editor, and publisher, who was executive vice president and publisher of Marvel Comics. Changes in not in the basic story or anything, because I knew how to tell a story as well as anybody, I think, in terms of sequentially and what to draw, what to tell the artist. MS. SINGER: 19 out of 20 19 out of 30. We're going to focus today on the period from 1958 to 1965, so that's fine. Q: When you did free when you did freelance work between 1958 and 1964, you did not have a written contract, correct? LARRY LIEBER: I felt that they didn't have to pay me for it. Q: And you were writing scripts? Q: Do you know what a declaration is? LARRY LIEBER is one of the more overlooked, underrated and as such forgotten men from the Silver Age of Marvel comics. He, he I never had to, you know, go home and do it again. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: Stan. 5 Dec 1947. I did my freelance work there. '"[13] In 1958, following an economic downturn for the publisher and the firing of virtually all the comics staffers save Lee, "Stan said he wanted somebody to help him write, and he had nobody then; he was doing it all himself. I think it might have been Don Heck, but I'm not sure. Please share on social media! Widower of Private Other people know, and if I had the book, I could tell you. Check the Prices Tab on Desertwindcomics.com for witnessing and grading fees. Suite 620 Beverly Hills, CA 90210-4608 USA: Hobbies: Writing stories: Do you remember? Though he gave up the role of regular artist in Spring 1979 and the role of regular writer in mid-1982, he would still write and draw the occasional installment until the strip's end in September 1982. [11] Because it was not standard industry practice during this time to give writer and artist credits, Lieber may have supplied more. Lieber then succeeded Kida on the daily strip in 1986. 3: Randy's New Obsession? [8] His first superhero work, the first appearance of Marvel's Thor in Journey into Mystery #83 (Aug. 1962), introduced one of the mainstays of the Marvel Universe, the mystical metal "uru", of which Thor's hammer Mjolnir is made. MS. SINGER: Objection. Geni requires JavaScript! One of the things I had to do was to cut rates and tell people they were going to make less money, which was not an enviable position. He remembered writers from the past. I made up stories that I really liked and it lasted a little while. (break in testimony) LARRY LIEBER: Uh-huh. LARRY LIEBER: No. The media giant, which acquired Marvel in 2009, on Friday sued Larry Lieber, who helped create the characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man, and the estates of several . I I don't understand the things very well. I believe I did. Regardless, his next confirmed credit is penciling and inking the three-page story "A World to Conquer" in Journey into Unknown Worlds #52 (Dec. 1956), followed by stories in such Atlas romance comics as Love Romances, Love Tales, Stories of Romance, True Tales of Love and The Romances of Nurse Helen Grant in issues cover-dated April to August 1957 and July 1958. MS. SINGER: Objection. Yes. LARRY LIEBER: I wrote the first script for Iron Man also. [9], Career[edit] Early work[edit] In 1941 Lee had been made the editor of Timely Comics, the future Marvel Comics, a division of a publishing company owned by a relative, Martin Goodman. "[24] He considered seeking work at rival DC Comics, as some other Marvel writers and artists did, but found, "I was the only one who could never do that because that was the price for Stan being my brother. MR. TOBEROFF: Assumes facts. Q: What was Ant-Man's name? LARRY LIEBER: Thank me for Anthony Stark. Could you do me a favor and just pause before answering a question so I have room to object before? Larry Lieber, interview by Daniel Best http://ohdannyboy.blogspot.com.au/2007lerry%20Lieber%20Geni/08/look "It [comic book publishing] was in my family really. After you wrote the first strike that. LARRY LIEBER: No. How? We didnt have television then and so there were newspaper comics and the comic books. Q: Are you familiar with a comic called Iron Man? [As well i]t was simply too risky for me not to be grooming some other writers to fill the break if necessary. Stan had said he had an idea for a character, he wanted to write the story and for one of the books and told me or gave me, you know, a synopsis and I went home and wrote it. Tudor City had a park, and when it was nice I'd sit there and break the story down picture by picture. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Q: We don't have to worry about I'm focusing you, I'm sorry, I'm focusing you on the period 1958 to 1965. LARRY LIEBER: I don't know the year, you know, all the years and I don't know if it was. LARRY LIEBER: I just made it up, as far as I know. Q: Okay. Maybe there was just too much humor in it, or too much something. My brother was back from the Service, he was just married and he moved out outside of New York to Long Island. Slowly surveying our entire, vast writing staff which mainly consisted of myself and any occasional freelancer who happened to wander in to make a free phone call my gaze happened to fall upon Larry Lieber and I remembered that he had many times expressed a desire to write a superhero story. MR. TOBEROFF: Objection as to form. So at any rate finally I think at one point he got a little exasperated and he said, "I'm going to hire some of the old pros." LARRY LIEBER: Journey Into Mystery. Q: Did you were you ever interviewed in connection with any lawsuit previously? Thanks to Daniel Best for posting these public transcripts online. Because if I had been, I might not have been so concerned about my expenses. Q: You mentioned Jack Kirby. LARRY LIEBER: I'm trying to think of the answers so much and I yeah, I'll wait. He additionally began writing it in early 1979. Stan had his own way of writing and his own using as few words as possible, making them count, and he he was a good editor. MS. SINGER: You have to give a pause so he can object to his own questions too. From 1974 to 1975, he was . 3 references. LARRY LIEBER: I didn't know. I put in a voucher. LARRY LIEBER: I believe it was Jack Kirby. After that, after the Hulk, Stan left. Q: Okay. Q: Did you ever work on the comic Thor? LARRY LIEBER: Yeah, that would be and I think that was called the Marvel style. Stan said, 'I'm trying to make up a character,' and he gave me the plot, and he said, 'Why don't you write the story? Lieber is the younger brother of the late Marvel Comics writer, editor, and publisher Stan Lee. So he hired somebody and then the next week when I came back to him he said, "Larry, you know something, you're no good, but you're better than these other guys". LARRY LIEBER: I got the synopsis, the plot from Stan, and I wrote the first script of Thor. The Larry Lieber Deposition For The Kirby Family Vs Marvel Lawsuit, Supernatural: Collins & Ackles Want Some Sweet "The Last of Us" Money, Spider-Man Receives Spectacular Wave of Marvel Legends Figures, Hasbro Loses Their Minds By Dropping $75 Carbonized Star Wars 2-Pack, Marvel Releases New Guardians Of The Galaxy Trailer, The Spider-Man With Dots For Eyes Gets His Own Spider-Verse Version, Danny Earls, From Gail Simone Tweet To Marvel & DC Gigs In Two Months, South Park Season 26 Ep. The media giant, which acquired Marvel in 2009, on Friday sued Larry Lieber, who helped create the characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man, and the estates of several other artists, including Spider . Find out about Stan Lee's family tree, family history, ancestry, ancestors, genealogy, relationships and affairs! [6] Lee elsewhere described that move to a two-story, three-bedroom home at 1084 West Broadway as occurring in 1949,[7] when Larry would have been 17 or 18. Q: Do you know the story behind the creation of Thor? Wikipedia (15 entries) edit. For the first year or two, you know, I was learning. "[12] He again drew for his brother, editor Stan Lee, at the 1950s forerunner of Marvel Comics, known generally as Atlas Comics, though whether on staff or freelance is uncertain. [9] Lieber began working for Goodman as an art assistant on the magazine side, "doing paste-ups. Family: Father- Jack Lieber Mother- Celia Lieber Brother- Larry Lieber Sister- Not Known: Religion: Judaism: Ethnicity/Race: Jewish: Address (Fan Mail) Pow! He would go over my work and, you know, do things. I didn't, you know, and I didn't know what it was. And usually for me, as I saw it, work wouldn't be rejected because they know who they're dealing with and they know what you can do. I would see what they're doing and go back or whatever the hell it was. Was there anything, just to be clear so for the record So that's why I did that. I think I did. He worked most of his life as a dress cutter in New York. [27], The Hulk was kind of popular on television, and so I drew The [Incredible] Hulk. And then there was maybe not there, but I know I maybe it was it was there and also in the New York Times they had an article about this case some time ago, and in the article they mentioned again what it was about. Lee was known for being Marvel Comics' lead creative leader for almost 21 years.. With his work alongside co-writer/artists Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, he co-created many popular fictional characters, including superheroes Spider-Man, the X-Men, Iron Man, Thor . Q: Let me take a step back then. Yes. His family had to live in financial difficulties in a one-bedroom apartment. My brother [Stan Lee] was in it and he started when he was about 17 or 18 or whatever. Well, if it was seven-page story, I would have each page what was on the page. LARRY LIEBER: My understanding they were not obligated. He looked a little surprised and walked away, and then I stopped writing it and he would I don't know if he was writing it or somebody else, but they gave it another name, which I believe was the authentic name from Bulfinch's Mythology. (I still retain an affection for western comics.) I just remember people saying sometimes, "Oh, you just missed Milly," and if you missed Milly when she was handing out the checks, then you went to bookkeeping and went over to Milly and she opened her drawer and said, "Here's your check." Daimon eventually took over Hell in order to bring balance . Q: Did Marvel provide you with any health insurance or health benefits during the time you worked there? View the profiles of people named Larry Liebe. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor, and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and . I don't know which came first, but I've only heard it recently in the last year or so, once from you using it to me in a conversation, and then I I looked up the case out of curiosity on the Internet and they were talking about it and they mentioned it as being an important thing or was it work for hire or not. [4], Lee wrote in his autobiography that when Larry was a teenager, the boys' mother died and Lieber went to live with his brother and his sister-in-law, Joan, prompting the trio's move to Woodmere, New York, on Long Island. They would have thought Stan Lee is sending over a spy or something you know. Q: Okay. Q: Do you know what Milly's last name was? Q: Who was responsible for giving you the assignment to write a particular script or a particular I wrote The Rawhide Kid and I drew it. These were all scripts in advance [that Kirby would illustrate]. Jacob was born on September 15 1886, in Botosani, Romania. He remembered writers from the past. imported from Wikimedia project. When he's giving me this, I never thought of writing. Sometimes if there was a lot of action, you might play up that panel and only have five, let's say, one panel across. He graduated from Finch University Of Health Sciences Chicago Medical School in 1981. Thanks to family connections, he got a job at the publishing company Timely. The artist made the change after a reader complained the cut was too old-fashioned. LARRY LIEBER: I think I had them at the very beginning when I started writing. LARRY LIEBER: Yes, I I remember I went with Stan and I bought it once. The others are worse than me. Jay Lieber, beloved husband of Judy. When he has made corrections, I have fortunately agreed with it. While also teaching, Lieber wrote and drew stories about monsters, heroes, cowboys and love. And so, no, not that I recall. [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. You're doing a little production work. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: No. Lieber then succeeded Kida on the daily strip in 1986. As Lieber recalled it to comics historian Daniel Best, "My mother died when I was 16. Well, wait a minute. LARRY LIEBER: I always wrote the script. But now it was impossible. I know there were artists who work for other companies. . Join Facebook to connect with Larry Lieber and others you may know. [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? All I thought of was will Stan like this or will he tell me, 'Larry, this isn't good, you can't do this.' Q: Was the first scripts for Marvel strike that. 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