with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. Shoot the crap out of it. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. JavaScript is disabled. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. It won't load a round. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. Win A Colt 1911 Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier 45acp, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. Pasted as rich text. Then compare frames and see what is different. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. JavaScript is disabled. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. BrianEnos.com Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. buddy19 January 3, 2004 in Glock. I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. No need to clean, just add lube. Is this RSA going to $hit already? If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. Paste as plain text instead, Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? can your extractor move freely? Did you try having someone else shoot it? Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Just a thought. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Something he has seen in the field. All Rights Reserved. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. Pasted as rich text. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. SJ 40, thank you! I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Thanks for the info. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? Your link has been automatically embedded. Powered by Invision Community. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. Your previous content has been restored. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. I couldnt be happier. Is this how it supposed to function? Thanks. Also do you have another 17 handy? Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. You cannot paste images directly. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. I can swap the sli. You can post now and register later. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. 2. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? Paste as plain text instead, One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. 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